Sue's Blog

Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Is NLH trying to counter my message?

NO EXPORT OF LABRADOR POWER! Read below and see what you think?

Hard to know how to take this one. Today Sue's Blog was visited by Summa Strategies Canada.

They are:

Summa Strategies Canada Inc. provide strategic consultation and government relations and the development and management of public policy.

Located at:

Suite 1000, 100 Sparks Street
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada

Customers include:

International Fund for Animal Welfare

Canadian Cable Television Association

Clearwater Fine Foods Inc.

Bombardier Services

and

Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro

Now that's a fine group for Newfoundland and Labrador. And why is it hydro uses them? Anyway staying on course - let's look at one of the Vice Presidents - Patrick Dion -

Mr. Dion was employed as an engineer with North America's largest public utility, supporting Ontario's large industrial customers with energy management solutions. Mr. Dion began his public service career as assistant and advisor to a Toronto-area Member of Parliament. He has capably served as: legislative assistant to the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance; economist with the federal Finance Department's International Trade Policy Division; and legislative and communications advisor to the Secretary of State for International Financial Institutions.


Read that carefully now.

So what are they doing examining Sue's Blog archives?

1. Maybe to see if they can counter the no-export of Labrador Power message

2. Maybe to check out what is being said re Ontario's hydro needs

3. Maybe because Tim Powers is also a Vice President - you know the communications guy that's on the National News Networks as a spokesperson for Harper taking on Scott Reid - another fan of Newfoundland and Labrador.

4. Maybe looking at the supportive sealing industry messages on my site for the IFAW - you know our best buds - the animal activists.

5. Maybe they were bored and were blog hopping.

Hard to know who sent them - or why they came for a visit. Danny - again - why do these people do work for Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro. Wait that's right - could it be because the cable guy recommended it?

Sue's Blog readers can visit the site and take guesses themselves. CLICK HERE

If Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro is using this firm for a counter message regarding the export of Lower Churchill Power - we need to know now.

We need to know what work this company has done for NLH.

We need to know what this company has done for the International Fund for Animal Welfare.

Stop keeping secrets Premier- what's up?

For the record this is the copy of when they visited Sue's Blog:

Please note they came to the site by using Google and the words "Sue Kelland Dyer"
And they entered on the page they were interested in CLICK HERE
As you can see it's energy related!


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22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Please don't say that Sue! But I fear the worst, and I believe you could very well have hit the nail right on the head. Both levels of government for Newfoundland and Labrador have always hired foxes to man the hen houses of Crown Corporations and such, foxes mostly who have been born and bred in the provinces of Quebec and Ontario and who never pull the cord for the province of Newfoundland and Labrador.


And since your blog is going strong again Sue, I'm waiting very fighteningly for that Sorensen OGRE to revisit your blog again, or somebody as Satanic. You know that nut case who works for the PC Party of Ottawa and who that party sic'ed on your blog. That guy frightens me to death. He is the scariest creature that ever I encountered in any piece of writing. If he doesn't come back be prepared for somebody else as scary to visit you and try to spring havoc on you and the people of Newfoundland and Labrador who are trying to steer things in the right orbit with regards to how our resources should be developed and for whom.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they mistakenly believed there was something here based on research and knowledge instead of bizarre ramblings.

Anonymous said...

Anon don't worry they didn't mistakenly believe anything, they know darn well that the ramblings of which you speak are genuine and will prove to be the downfall of any movement that is made
to develop and export any resource from the province of Newfoundland and Labrador to anyplace west of here. If the Lower Churchill Hydroelectric Energy Project is to be developed, it will be developed for Labrador and NOT FOR Ontario. So please do not try to kid anyone that the ramblings on this blogsite are just harmless ramblings directed at Ontario's desire to acquire one of our resources that is coveted not only by Ontario but by the whole of North America, namely the Lower Churchill Hydroelectricity Energy. The utterances here are for real and you will see it to be so at the very first move that is made to sell this province short, ever again on the development and exporting of any of its resources.

Anonymous said...

For Anonymous III: Some things you need to think about. If the Lower Churchill (Grand/Hamilton/Mistashipu) were to be developed for Labrador don't you think that Labradorians would be consulted? Lordy, heaven forbid, even asked if they were interested in losing this great river? There are many view points out there besides plugging it up and selling it off you know. There are many development possibilities in that river valley besides Hydro. I can guarantee you that if it were to be developed solely for the good of Labrador none of past premiers, especially not your current one would ever be interested. Don't you know there are no plans to deliver any power to most Labrador communities?
If you really really believe that Labrador power shouldn't be shipped on of here then the first step you'd have to take is change your current government. Write it down - that's the plan.

Anonymous said...

LP I would prefer to see any river remain in the state that nature carved it.

And yes LP, Labradorians should be consulted and if it goes ahead the energy should be for creating industry in Labrador and whatever else is needed in Labrador.

But if you want something to happen a certain way, the voices of Labradorians will have to heard as well as the voices of the people from the Newfoundland portion of the province.

If we remain silent, what happened in the past with our resources is bound to be repeated. We know the provinces which were the primary beneficiaries of our resources and we know that those provinces created vibrant economies from them.

To remain silent means we will lose again. Don't forget we don't have Ottawa on side and we do not have the National Media and both of those voices are mightly loud. And of course we have the voices of the other provinces whining for that very valuable resource known as hydro-electricity, especially Quebec and Ontario.

WJM said...

Scott Reid - another fan of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Sue, what's that supposed to mean?

What did Scott Reid ever do to Newfoundland and Labrador?

Sue Kelland-Dyer said...

Can anybody help WJM out?

Anonymous said...

For Anonymous IV:
I'm afraid that as far as getting most Nflders on side for anything benefiting Labrador is likely a forlorn hope. Judging from the call-in shows commentary there is not much concern for any benefit for Labrador. I have heard the occasional one, but the focus seems to be always the extraction mind set - as it has always been.
I will believe that these things have changed when I hear the majority expressing different thought(s). It is age old and difficult to change. Not only that the politicos have been quite successful over time to manage to pit areas/groups against one another for meagre gain themselves.
Only one group consistently has spoken for leaving it as is.
Lloyd

Anonymous said...

If you would like to listen to how Scott Reid did a spin on something that got his Liberal Party in a bit of trouble, listen to last Sunday's episode of the six part series on the Spin Cycles. This is a fantastic series, that is if you want to have your mind opened to how Governments' spin us. And spun we have been in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Don't forget Scott is the same person who told us that we would pay dearly for the Atlantic Accord payment that the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador received.

THE SERIES IS A MUST LISTEN! PLEASE TAKE THE TIME.

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Spin, the spinners and the spun
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The series explores the world of politics, big business, advertising and public relations to find the real message behind all that spin.

Spin Cycles is scheduled for rebroadcast on The Sunday Edition this summer, starting July 8 at 10:00 a.m. and continuing every Sunday until Aug. 12.

Spin Cycles
Episode 1: A century of spin
How spin began. The rocky relationship between the press and public relations is now 100 years old.
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Anonymous said...

LP I think Sue's voice is very prominent on Labrador and I, too, am a proponent that Labrador's resources should be used for Labrador and there are others who do so, but not nearly enough.

But again Labradorians do not join in chorus in renouncing what is happening to this province and its resources either.

I really think we are all too complacent here and people take things for granted. That is an awful way for the electorate of Newfoundland and Labrador to conduct their lives. We can see plainly now that we have not being able to create this province into a 'have' one despite our abundant natural and human resources for the size of our population. For this to have happen given the criteria, many deficiencies would have had to exist here and in my opinion the biggest deficiency was the fact that we never made our voices heard in chorus on what was coming down the chute with our resources. We let the politicians and the National News Media rule the day. We just sat and watched those resources being exported out of here.

So LP the electorate from both sections of this province have to joined their voices in unison and put a stop to the raping of the province's resources.

Anonymous said...

WJM said...
Scott Reid - another fan of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Sue, what's that supposed to mean?

What did Scott Reid ever do to Newfoundland and Labrador?

August 01, 2007 12:35 AM

Wallace ,see what happens when you cry wolf so many times ,now nobody ,on a simple question will even think about answering you.You have way too much time on your hands buddy.Oh and yes Wallace ,that scum sucking Liberial never said that,"I only thought that he said that when I heard it"

GEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZ!!!

Anonymous said...

liberials must be some new nationality

Anonymous said...

Anonymous IV or V (not sure which is which at this point...

There is a sad sad reason why not many Labradorians join your chorus regarding Labrador resources. That is quite simply because the problem has always been, as it is now that we need the protection from the St.John's government, not Ottawa. We are, and have been suffering at the ill treatment of 'the Province' all the very same things you say you are suffering at the hands of Canada. So who would we be saving the resource for?
The province has the decision making power on those resources now, just as it always has. For us to jump in and help out would be the same as helping the burglar lug the stuff away from our house.
Sad? Yep. True? Yep.
If you want to help us out - first get the blame in the right place.

Anonymous said...

Hobbes ,.............liberalism is a mental disorder!!!!

When Newfoundlanders and Labradorians wake-up the next time canada screws us over ,maybe they will ask for the rebirth of the Newfoundland and Labrador Party.

Is there hope there for us as a Province,or do we have to continue in this fake shit-hole of a country forever.

Oh my,we cant even get the Quebecors to leave because they keep getting bribed by the feds .OH my the propaganda machine that is Ottawa,is it all "POWERFULL" or can we wake from this slumber.Only time will tell.

Sue Kelland-Dyer said...

LP - I will squarely blame Danny Williams for wanting to export the power from Labrador. He will be responsible for that should it happen. I assume Labrador will take action.
Ottawa wanted Labrador and fish - hence Confederation. Quebec wants Labrador and will use Canada to get the benefit from Labrador resources.
Bandwagon is this Labrador resources for Labrador - I fought to have the smelter located there.

Anonymous said...

Sue you summed it up in a nutshell when you said:

QUOTE 1. Ottawa wanted Labrador and fish - hence Confederation.

2. Quebec wants Labrador and will use Canada to get the benefit from Labrador resources.

UNQUOTE

And to sum up, the reason Newfoundland found itself and Labrador one territory in the first place was because Quebec or France would have been the other alternative to have gotten the land mass of Labrador. England did not want that to happen and neither did Canada, so I suspect with Canada's yearnings for the landmass to the east of Quebec and Nova Scotia, it was contrived between England and Canada that the best place for Labrador to go would be to be aligned with Newfoundland or Newfoundland aligned with Labrador, it can be said either way. And I suspect England and Canada made some sort of arrangements for the resources that were known to exist at the time to go to Canada instead of being developed in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador. Of course Quebec is a province of Canada and was since the province of Newfoundland and Labrador became part, and Quebec got to enjoy the resource of the Upper Churchill Hydroelectric and the Iron Ore. I cannot bet my life on what I just wrote being completely factual but that is my theory because of how things have turned out and because of which province received the resources from our province, but if I were a fly on the wall during some of the negotiations, I am pretty sure the talks were on the line of which I just wrote.

Anonymous said...

No doubt about the Hydro, Sue, Williams is responsible. This time. First time it was Smallwood (come to think of it, what's the difference?), next in line would have been all the rest of the premiers if they had been successful. However, my comments have not been only about Hydro but all the other resources under Provincial jurisdiction, but also including many generations of many thousands of quintals of fish.

For others... if you read back over your posts do you notice anything missing? Probably not. I notice you haven't ever indicated whether Labrador had a choice, nor have you speculated on what the choice might have been. The only choice we know about for sure was the Confederation vote and we know what that percentage was, to join Canada.
Oh, also, Labrador was back and forth between Nfld and Canada (in the form of Quebec) more than once - if you mind to read your history.
And I ask you again: Would any of this be a concern to anyone if there were no resource dollars to be had from Labrador?

Sue Kelland-Dyer said...

Resources in Labrador for Labrador...
Good for everybody...

Anonymous said...

Hey, Hey Sue. I sanction your statement of resources in Labrador for Labrador. It will be good for everybody indeed!
It must not happen any other way.

Anonymous said...

1)" Would any of this be a concern to anyone if there were no resource dollars to be had from Labrador?"

If there was nothing there then no.The feds would have left it alone.And,Quebec wouldn't be squeezing Labrador right now.

2)Oh, also, Labrador was back and forth between Nfld and Canada (in the form of Quebec) more than once - if you mind to read your history.

Yes ,Lp ,and how many times did N.F.L.D fight in England for its rights in Labrador.We dont "OWN" it ,it is rather a piece of us and our culture.And yes ,it is a shame how the big Land has been treated .

3)Here is were we differ Lp!

"First time it was Smallwood (come to think of it, what's the difference?)"

I have read many an article on what transpired here with this deal.Was Smallwood ready to deal with canada.Doesnt look like it to me.But ,i have a question for you lp,how do you feel about this deal being allowed to continue when in most peoples minds this deal was mis-managed by the feds because of the problems in Quebec.
Smallwoods mind set was ,"rather something then nothing"

4) "I notice you haven't ever indicated whether Labrador had a choice, nor have you speculated on what the choice might have been. The only choice we know about"

lp ,if you are referring to confederation which I believe you are then i would have to agree with you .Labrador at that time was nothing more then a Northern territory.You do bring up some very good points in my idieology as well.One that Separation will not come from the east ,but rather from Quebec .All I say is that when the time comes for us once again to jump or stay on side,guess were my vote will be going .

Anonymous said...

Sorry, don't mean to be cluttering up your blog with any more on this but Calvin's latest requires comment.

Calvin: Regarding resources, I don't mean 'back then' I mean NOW.
Labrador being nothing more than a Northern Territory back then? Wow.
My ancestors lived here for hundreds, even thousands of years. Even, 'back then' (whenever that was) there were plenty of other people living here too.
Nfld in England defending her rights in Labrador? What about Labrador's rights?
Also, what about the couple of times Nfld tried to sell us off to Quebec? Where was the defence then? And did you ask us if it was alright to be sold? Furthermore, but maybe more critical to this argument, if Quebec was so darn eager to have us, how come they didn't buy us at those times?

Just a couple of things for you to think about.
Have a great day and that will be all from me.

Anonymous said...

1)"Nfld in England defending her rights in Labrador? What about Labrador's rights?"

If Im not mistaken Lp at that time Labrador was regarded by England as Newfoundlands northern territory.The period of time between 1920 and 1930 is what I am making referance too.I believe that Newfoundland wanted to sell the Labrador because at the time Quebec made such a strong stink to England.Thus the Privy Counsel.

2)"And did you ask us if it was alright to be sold? "

No,Lp,they didnt ask anybody.The English decided what was good for you and me .How Labrador has been treated by either Canada or England is disgusting in my mind set.

3) "but maybe more critical to this argument, if Quebec was so darn eager to have us"

Just a point here lp,Im hoping that we can discuss rather then argue.I dont feel what we are doing here is argueing.I like to referr to it as a healthy discussion between two people from the same Province .That have a deep love and affection for thier home.Be it Labrador or Newfoundland ,lp,I love every sqaure inch of our beloved province.From St Johns to Labrador City and everything in between.I hope that we can talk again as i have really enjoyed speaking to you .

Good luck to you and God bless.