NO NEED TO WAIT FOR AN ENERGY PLAN
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROPOSAL BY THE METIS?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROPOSAL BY THE METIS?
KATHY DUNDERDALE FOR GIVING AWAY ANOTHER NATURAL RESOURCE. TODAY THE GOVERNMENT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR HAS ANNOUNCED WE ARE BUYING WIND FROM ANOTHER WIND PROJECT - THIS TIME ON THE SOUTHERN SHORE. THIS TIME OUR WIND IS BEING GIVEN TO ALBERTA AND ONTARIO AND OF COURSE THE STOCK MARKET.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR FURTHERING THE PRIVATIZATION PROCESS OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR HYDRO.
NOT A CLUE!
NO MORE GIVEAWAYS?
DON'T KID YOURSELF!
WE SHOULD OWN AND OPERATE THAT GENERATION.
16 comments:
Sue:
Glad you mentioned that and linked it to the Metis in Labrador...the ones that have been promised to, lied to, all under the signature of the great one himself...
You know, here on the Mainland, Labrador that is we've grown used to such things. Yet, one of the main things we notice, constantly, is that those thing keep happening and keep happening. The only thing that seems to change is that every 8-12 years, sometimes more is that there is a different face in the top seat. Since we Labradorians don't have any votes that really, genuinely count - quite plainly it is folks from on the Island who have always approved such things. Right now, they approve it to the tune of somewhere around 70 percent or more.
What can we say?
This is one Islander that will promote Labrador resources for Labrador development. There is so much potential yet such little vision from the office of power.
I see Labrador with a couple of hundred thousand people within 15 - 20 years if the plan was right.
Clearly if Labradorians want improvements in their infrastructure 'deficit' we would have to embrace some population growth to be able to exert more political pressure(s). Mind you, I'm not sure such sudden and huge growth would be necessarily good in such a short time frame. Perehaps a steady and controlled growth would be more desireable? Also, it surely does not appear that past and current governments wish to do things simply for the 'right' reasons - that being simply that they are needed or that Labrador should get a fair share of return for what they produce for 'the Province'.
A little off, perhaps, the core of the subject of this post, but since you have in fact referred to the Metis project on several occasions in your blog, maybe it is a somewhat pertinent question: Since you do have somewhat of a following and since you have mentioned the Metis; What is your position on the Labrador Metis as an Aboriginal group? No, I don't need to hear the official position as given by the provincial government anymore. Do you, or would you support such things hunting, fishing rights by Labrador Metis, and do you believe the Labrador Metis should be seen, by this Province, as having a legitimate land claim, therefore playing a key role in any future developments of any kind in their particular area(s)?
Yes I support the Metis position. Yes - Yes - Yes to all questions.
How can you give away the wind? It is an entirely fungible resource. If the government wants to build state-owned wind turbines, there is lots of wind to go around.
What is the matter with private wind development?
I prefer paying ourselves or a community for a common resource generation. That makes it cheaper and a portion of what I pay (profit) goes back to the treasury for education and health.
Further I like stability in the transmission system.
Why do you think that common resource should not be used to benefit the people directly? Why do you want to pay more? Why don't you want equity in a natural resource? Why don't you want royalties? Why do you think an Ottawa firm has to do it for us? Why don't we use this renewable to generate revenue so we can lower taxation - while we use hydropower for industry?
The only part of the island portion of our province that is giving the premier his great majority, in my opinion, is the Avalon Peninisula and as far west as Grand Falls. To say that the Island is benefiting from Labrador's resources is partly true. There are many parts of the island that are hurting as much, probably more, than communities in Labrador. There are still communities on the Island that also have no roads to get in or out. Most small Communities in Labrador will be connected by a road in the next couple of years.
I am sure Labrador will eventually be developed in the years to come, especially once the road is completed. Portions of the Island are seeing a steady decrease and will continue until they are nothing but ghost towns. These seem to be the sad realities of our province. At least in Joey Smallwoods day they were man enough to call it what it actually was, resettlement.
I agree - the hidden resettlement plan by Doug House is disgusting. We do however need to deal with the real problems of the Island - our fishery was destroyed by Ottawa - which none of our elected officials are dealing with. This catatrophic destruction of a way of life - a tremendous world-class renewable resource - is or should be criminal. If the Premier placed the same emphasis on the fishery as he does with oil and gas and if he would do the right thing and really fight Ottawa on this issue - many communities would be saved and could thrive. The tourism potential is unreal - but again we do not do enough in this area - instead we "brand".
Then there is the forestry sector destroyed by years of provincial mismanagement and the failure of government to get creative in these areas. We need to demand much more federal presence in areas that are suitable for our region - these is not a Minister doing anything here either.
Dollar by dollar they will get their Atlantic Accord money back.
I was brought up to believe that if I can't say anything good about a person , I should say nothing. It is for this reason that I feel guilty for being so critical of premier Danny Williams. However, when I look at the direction in which he is taking this old nation of ours (the word "province" sticks in my gullet) I am angered , and all the more so because of his indifference to my disapproval and, I believe, the disapproval of the thousands of other of his constituents who are excluded from the building of the little oil fired Avalon enclave with which he is so obsessed. I am angered because he seems incapable of understanding the folly of this scheme, and because of the excessive power he wields, is not inclined nor pressured into considering any other view. The consequence of his misguided leadership is that rural Newfoundland is in freefall towards inevitable oblivion, unless it can be stopped. But how? The chance of that happening grows less every day with the continuing exodus of our people. Newfoundland is in crisis. As a nation we are literally at death's door. Danny must be aware of this, and maybe there is nothing he can do about it, but better to admit that than to delude himself and his followers with foolish talk about fictitious prosperity. It is this latter that I find the most infuriating.
Lloyd C.
I prefer paying ourselves or a community for a common resource generation.
You're a communist, in other words? Only the state should own such an industry?
That makes it cheaper
Makes what cheaper?
Why do you think that common resource should not be used to benefit the people directly?
If "the people" want to invest in it, sure.
But why should "the people" also prevent anyone else from doing so (except, of course, where it's convenient.)?
Don't corporations pay taxes? Don't their employees? Can't the province set up a royalty regime?
In case you haven't noticed, Sue, there is a lot of private energy investment — wind and hydro both — taking place in Quebec, and even into PEI and other provinces. If you'd rather have that capital going into every other province of Confederation, that's up to you.
But I'd like to see Labrador get a cut.
Why do you think an Ottawa firm has to do it for us?
It doesn't "have to".
But why shouldn't it — or a Norwegian one, or a locally-owned one — be allowed to?
Why don't we use this renewable to generate revenue so we can lower taxation - while we use hydropower for industry?
How is private investment antithetical to "revenue generation"?
What industry do you propose "using" the hydro power for?
Where?
Who's lining up to use it?
I am not a communist - just practical - government needs sources of revenue which is why we would seek equity interest offshore - also it is why we have royalties - what you are promoting is simple giveaway of resources.
As for making the power cheaper - it does - the crown gts a lower rate of return - there is no middle man for generation - and the crown corp does not pay tax unlike the private which in turn is costed back to us the consumer. The power would be cheaper.
We have the ability to do the tech here. Like Norsk Hydro we should start to become involved in alternate generation tech - we should do it ourselves and then export that ability.
Yes there is private investment in energy projects in Quebec - the amount is minute versus the crown - further if we start generating the profits of Hydro Quebec - maybe we could look at it. There is no royalty regime on this wind project.
The best system for the consumer is a system like HQ where the generation transmission and distribution is all under the crown - providing of course the resources we are using are profitable ones - which we have...The deregulation of energy has not netted savings to consumers in the same way communications dereg has - in fact it lead to ENRON the California system collapse - extreme price gouging and the blackout in Ontario and the New England states a few years back.
Boy, you don't like hard questions or dissention do you?
Who do you work for WJM? Then I might be able to answer your questions more suitably.
WJM, We are never going to have anyone lining up to use power generated from Newfoundland and Labrador if we are constantly sending it off to other provinces so they can expand their own economies. It is that kind of thinking that got us in the hole we are in today with a population that is steady decreasing.
Where is the power being generated in Newfoundland? Seems to me the only place under consideration for any meaningful power generation is in Labrador. Isn't it?
to: the latest anonymous
maybe somebody up on the 5th could help you...
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